I send one of their revolvers back after opening it. Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. THE FRAME RETAINS 97% OF ITS CASE COLORS. Very cool stuff. Rolling Tops all my Glocks, Berrets, Sigs, ARs, AKs etc. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored You could become the next Farinelliif youre lucky. I wasn't there. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. Do not try to turn a century-and-a-half old black powder design into a modern magnum. 1885 High Wall Manual. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Youll love it! I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. Now, 155 years later, you can still buy brand new versions of Fordyces design, mostly made in Italy. They are both shooters and I believe they will have a blast with this next time I visit. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Minor handling dings - see photos Standard 8" octagon barrel. Thats not meat harvesting. It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52749, Lussignoli Renzo W.Parker/ London Reproduction - C53215, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. It isnt the first C&B Revolver Ive bought, but the first one belongs to my son and he has it. There is some variability between brands of caps as well as manufacture of nipples. He has a bee in his bonnet, that he is the ONLY person in the world who knows how to correctly clean black Powder revolvers. could be in your future, you would want a steel frame pistol instead of brass. Actions 44 BP; 60% blue, fair bore, fair grips, 7.75'' barrel, Made in Italy. 1885 Low Wall Manual. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. With 20 grains, it shoots like a charm, so much so that Ive never loaded it any heavier. Black powder is scary in the beginning. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). View more auctions here. . THE FRAME RETAINS 96% OF ITS CASE COLORS. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 Jim, you mentioned the Ruger Old Army , 44 cal. I respect your opinion, but roll my eyes when you try to state that as a matter of fact when its an opinion. All smokeless powder and paper free. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. Exc condition, appears unfired. He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. Not to mention that shooting 58 Remington reproduction is just an absolute hoot. I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. The conversion cylinders may be purchased only through an FFL, as the change makes the pistol no longer a relic as it fires readily available modern ammo. EMF had ASM building them before they switched to Uberti. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Then you must like AWA Peacekeepers (made by Armi San Marco), right? The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. His design has been in constant use since before the Civil War. Very scary as all get out. Regulators. The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. I called VTI. The cylinders are pricey, it cost as much as the gun, but I have gotten over the price and enjoy the heck out of shooting and reloading 45s. The strong top-strap design, the ease of swapping cylinders and the safety notches are all reasons why so many modern cap-and-ball shooters still turn to Fordyce Beals design. swap out ok between the same model like the 1860 Army? Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. Once a year I strip them right down to the last screw, wipe the mixture of oil and black powder residue off them,(Never found any rust!) One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. For Civil War pistoleros the best way to rapidly reload any cap-and-ball revolver, including the 1858, was to carry several of them, like this other guya Confederate guerilla from Missouri. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. They are two different Italian firearms manufacturing companies. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. 10s will probably be best. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. Thanks in advance. Drones are easy to hack or shoot down. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. That's your build date. The ball is further squeezed when it enters the forcing cone. Often the outside contour dimensions will differ at the bottom of the barrel lug at the frame, but that's not a critical thing. BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH GOOD RIFLING. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. Bullshit!!! A home run! In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why I've had to do very little fitting on Uberti or Pietta replacement parts - Hammer/trigger/hand/bolt/cylinder/loading lever. WOODEN STOCK IS VERY GOOD WITH LIGHT HANDLING WEAR 36 Caliber; 80% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL NAVY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION.. He joined the union army enlisting on Staten Island New York august 22,1862.Yesterday I loaded the Remington 44 caliber with 27 grains of FFG black powder and a 44 caliber ball from midway.At 20 yards it shot a nice 3 inch group. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Fingers on triggers, especially that Civil War vet. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. It is THE most accurate handgun I've ever fired. Estimated Price: $400 - $600. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL I also have an open top revolver and an 1873 rifle that are Uberti. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. .44 Cal percussion. The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part). I suggest going to the local gun shop and ask if there are any cowboy action shooters around. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. 1873 Single Action Manual. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. Stainless steel octagon barrel with drift adjustable front sight, elevation adjustable rear sight. I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. That sucker started flipping all over the place. It was just the size of a small outfit, like 4-5 people there and I saw mostly lever rifles parts (might be they got their pistol from other sources).